WAUSAU — An early morning rollover crash on Wausau’s northwest side left three juveniles injured, one of them seriously, police said.

Wausau Police Chief Ben Bliven said the single vehicle rollover crash happened at about 5:30 a.m. on North Fourth Avenue near Campus Drive. The vehicle had three occupants and all of them were transported to the hospital, Bliven said.

One of the occupants had to be extricated from the vehicle and is seriously injured, Bliven said.

According to Wausau Police Lt. Dwayne Dachel, a dog in the vehicle was turned over to the owner and transported to an emergency veterinarian.

Because all passengers in the vehicle are juveniles, no names will be released. Police did not say if seatbelts were used or what factors might have played a role in the crash.

The crash remains under investigation by the Wisconsin State Patrol crash reconstruction unit and the Wausau Police Department.

This story will be updated as additional information is received.

57 replies on “UPDATE: 3 juveniles injured in early morning Wausau crash”

  1. “Because all passengers in the vehicle are juveniles, no names will be released”.

    Could someone please explain the “logic” behind this? We don’t have the right to know? Really? How asinine.

  2. Sure, I can Call.The Department of Justice has held two principals when it comes to juveniles. One, juveniles are not legally responsible for their crimes similarly to adults because children do not have the understanding of their crimes nor the motives of adults.Secondly, the principal follows the first in the actions after a crime. We treat juveniles, we do not punish as we do adults. This comes from the Criminal Justice Information Policy Document entitled “Privacy and Juvenile Justice Protection” which is Document number 84152. The Pilot does not like linking in comments, so I am not going to share the link.

    1. Thank you, Dino. Well, I obviously disagree with pretty much ALL of that. Specifically in this case. If ANYONE is old enough to have a drivers license: Legally drive an insured motor vehicle, I certainly think they should also have the responsibility of being held responsible if something happens, be it “criminal” or not. What this tells me is it was basically a criminal offense, since the little pimple poppers are being kept anonymous. As Stan stated below, I also highly doubt they were on their way to choir practice. Maybe, maybe not, but again, I certainly think the public has the right to know who was involved in a vehicular accident on a public road.

      1. No problem buddy. It is something I worked with for a while, so I knew I could offer you up something of value.

  3. Call, These guidelines were updated in 2006 with a document called “Guidelines for
    Juvenile Information Sharing” which was prepared by the Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs and Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Programs. It was published in October 2006, and is NCJ document 215786.

  4. I am sure they all are upstanding citizens who were on their way to early choir practice when the accident occurred. Yeah, right.

  5. How can you be so crass and shallow. A young 13 year old is fighting for her life and you just want to hear the gory details.

  6. They are kids that made a bad decision that resulted in a terrible accident remember when we all did stupid stuff when we were there age it only affected them and their families and friends nobody else was hurt nothing got damaged other than a tree and the vehicle… They were showing off and lost control it’s not like they robbed a bank you people are all so stuck on yourself so you can’t see past the end of your own nose don’t you think they’re suffering enough just with the injuries they’re dealing with….. They sure the heck don’t need your childish name-calling and cut Downs so why don’t you all just grow up shut your mouth and mind your own business and worry about your own life it doesn’t concern anyone other than the people who know about and if you knew the families you already know the kids names and seeing how you’re trying to figure out the kids names you obviously don’t know the families so but out and go about your own business… And stop assuming things because there’s an old saying that goes assumption is the mother of all mistakes

    1. Kay, I’m certainly NOT going to deny I did some stupid stuff as a kid, but I can guaranfreakingtee you that NONE of it involved doing something as stupid as (evidently….because we the public aren’t “privileged” to know) taking a motor vehicle and wrapping it around a tree……with two……or was it three other juveniles inside.
      So nothing else was damaged? Well, isn’t that just wonderful? How about if this kid rammed into another vehicle, or building and killed someone who WASN’T involved directly with their stupidity? THIS time, the public was lucky. I don’t freaking care about any “gory details”. All I want to know is WHO was involved. SOMEONE legally is responsible for these juveniles, but again, because of these stupid laws, the rest of us aren’t royal enough to know who caused this and what the circumstances were?
      Sorry, but I’m NOT going to “mind my own business” when something stupid and illegal is done IN PUBLIC. If they would’ve done something stupid to themselves at home and/or on private property, that’s another story, but this was done on public property that my (and your) taxes pay for. Hell yes, we have a right to know. Nobody’s assuming anything. Sometimes the facts hurt.

    2. So Kay, I agree… and appreciate you using your whole name.

      I attempted to point out the problem with Kavanaugh’s alleged attack on a 15 year old girls needs to be investigated before he is granted a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court and the Senate is not doing it’s job in an open and non-partisan manner… the fabric of our Constitutional Government is being torn apart.

      Concerning the accident, kids made a big mistake and much of our society seems to celebrate the bad behavior, but we have forgotten that kids need guidance and protections and to be nurtured, because we make mistakes and they are not necessarily intentional.

      Working with kids, learned they need examples and forgiveness and love… that is why they need their families and friends.

  7. Call,

    I disagree. Even if this was the Doug Stone accident, we do not have the RIGHT to know. This is not an ebola patient flying into an airport.

    I do not have the right to know everything you do on public property and there is no burden to know what others do. You can be concerned, and want to know, and make an argument why you should know. But, I cannot see how you have a right to know.

    1. dino…public safety is why we should know. When this has an impact on our city…and our tax dollars we should know. Who paid for the damage…who paid for the ambulance etc…the heath care these kids will now need for months possibly years? Like 911 said thank goodness they didn’t hit anyone else. Of course we are concerned for the kids don’t even question that.

    2. “I do not have the right to know everything you do on public property”

      Sure you do. It’s public property. Owned by and paid for by the public. We all have the right to know what’s being done on our collectively owned property (save for things that would compromise national security, etc).

      Private property, not so much.

      In this case it’s juveniles (unless the driver is waived into adult court) and the names won’t be released, but we do have the right to know what happened and the news story informs us of what happened.

      In the case of the ‘alleged’ cokehead boozer Doug Stone, he’s an adult, so we are privy to all the details of his criminal conduct while on public property AND his name.

  8. right on 911! I as well did some dumb things as a kid but never put others in danger (they could have easily hit someone else)…This is not just “being a kid” and that is what is wrong with parents these days, nothing is ever the kids problem. What i would like to know is the age of the driver…If under 16 it sounds like they stole the car from their parents…if they didn’t did the parents hand over the keys? If they did take it from the parents that brings up the point of how they are being parented. Yes not all parents can control their kids if they are really bad but ultimatly they are a reflection of their upbringing. This is not a normal occurrence or we would see this type of story all of the time, which we don’t…Its crazy this kay lady thinks its not our business of this is just business as usual because they are kids.

  9. Todd,
    I am not questioning your care for the kids. I am questioning your right to know ANYTHING you described. Where does that end? Why do you think you have that right? Are you willing to surrender your privacy in the same fashion?

    1. well when the taxpayers foot the $100,000+ bill for all the expenses it becomes a public issue. Because at that point i would expect the city to hand that big fat bill over the parents… or should we send it to you dino?

    2. C’mon, Dino. Don’t go freaking overboard. It’s actually VERY simple. PUBLIC vs. private property is the main and only issue here. Nobody is wishing harm upon anyone, but when ANY kind of criminal offense takes place on public property, hell yes, the public has a right to know. This “oh, they’re just kids” crap simply doesn’t fly.

  10. So, I agree, the public should know when it effects public safety… so I will put you all down for supporting the investigation of the sexual assault charges of a drunk 17 year old on a 15 year old girls…

    1. Sorry Enk, I for one am not going to bite at your STUPID (and so typical) bait. Then again, silly me for expecting you to chime in and stay on topic.

      1. Call, when it is a matter of due process for juveniles then you want answers… Ford was15 when assaulted and you don’t want an investigation… this is a story of national interest and vital for years to come… what is more topical and vital than due process for a young girl being sexually assaulted… he life was effected and she has had to live with this attack and had counseling for years, isn’t it time for an investigation… don’t you want transparency and good government all the time… only talking about a sexual assault on a minor and a life time appointment on the Supreme Court… Justice is needed… for my wife, daughters, mother, sisters, and all women… after 20 some interesting but someone pointless comments… move on to a real issue of importance gang…

  11. I think it is important to point out that there is nothing in this story that indicates a cost to the public. A private individual driving their private car was in an accident.
    I get a kick out of how some folks clearly on the right here, are arguing against privacy.

    1. Was it on their private property? That’s what I thought.. That’s the point we are making! And don’t get me started on that. Leftists are all about spying for no reason or without proof of any crime…this has a reason. It was an actual crime with actual victims. Off topic but I bet you are a mueller lover. Screaming Russia! From the highest mountain..

    2. I think the Supreme Court has said you have very little privacy on public property. You have privacy of your body and over your personal property in your possession, that’s it.

      Your conduct on public property is public record. Anyone can photograph you, video tape you, record conversations, etc on public property except for locations where a person can expect to have privacy such as a bathroom, inside an ambulance while being treated, that type of place.

      There have been lots of cases on it and most say when you step on public grounds, you lose a lot of expectations of privacy.

    3. Dino, do you have ANY idea how much you, me and everyone else are video recorded while out in public? It’s absolutely astounding. Walk in basically ANY store or public business and SMILE, because you’re on camera. I’m honestly laughing at “a private individual driving their private car” thing. That “private individual was on a PUBLIC roadway……DEFINITELY illegally (since 15 yr olds to my knowledge do NOT have a drivers license).
      It has nothing to do with the “cost” to the public? Really? Since you brought that up, I’ll argue a few points:
      1. Do you KNOW everyone was insured in that crash?
      2. Do you KNOW how much the average 911 call costs taxpayers? I think we can all safely assume that police, fire and ambulance responded. That’s free and of NO effin’ cost to me???? I think not.
      3. Even if insured, you’re telling me that every penny of expense occurred (mostly from Aspirus I assume) will be “covered”. Riiiiiight.
      Yeah, I’m CLEARLY on the right, but how in the hell I’m arguing against privacy is beyond me. Pretty much NOTHING we do these days is “private”. That ship sailed quite a few years ago. I guarantee you that 90+% of the places you went today…..you were recorded on video.
      I certainly hope everyone recovers, but just because they’re underage does NOT shield them and/or their parents from the public knowing EXACTLY what in the hell went on.

  12. Conflation alert. Actually I am a left wing nut job who believes intensely in privacy and Constitutional protection.

    1. so you are a real liberal when it comes to the constitution not a leftist…im actually glad to hear that. conflation no…just making a point this is a criminal issue that actually happened..where mueller is on a fishing expedition. Privacy is not longer a law when you step out in the public.

      1. Todd, yeah, liberal and mostly a left wing nut case. I totally own that. Not a bleeding heart, or a snowflake either. I think the public policy positions of the left connect with my core values, and can benefit the citizens of this country. But, a lot of people disagree with me, and I value that discussion.

        In regards to privacy, what this is about is when can the government (law enforcement) release information. As I showed above, there are clear guidelines.

    2. Dino buddy, I have always suspected you of being some kind of nut, now I know it is of the WING variety. Just kidding. However, please cite the particular section of the Constitution that covers releasing the name of individuals involved in traffic accidents.

      Previously some snowflake took me to task for making a comment that most readers were thinking. She seemed to imply that I was too tough on the little rascals and that we all have done“stupid” things when we were younger. On that point she is correct as most of us have done things we would not do as adults. At least most of us. However, I would like to point out to Ms. Phillips that if one or more of those injured in the accident succumb to their injuries or is left in a diminished state, my harsh comments will seem like a loving pat on the head as to the penalty our legal system will impose.

      I would further point out that it is possible that Ms. Phillips would not be so forgiving if one of her loved ones was now occupying a bed in a local hospital, or worse yet, a slab at the morgue as a result of this incident.

      1. The child that was seriously injured is laying in a hospital bed fighting for her life and is one of my loved ones and I was only pointing out that nobody else was hurt other than the occupants of the vehicle the news report clearly said 1 vehicle rollover…they didn’t hit anyone else only a tree and a pole….but leave it u u people on her to continue the childish name calling …..I am NOT a snowflake…u have no idea who I am so don’t judge me….

    3. When it is a matter of due process for juveniles then you want answers… Ford was15 when assaulted and you don’t want an investigation… this is a story of national interest and vital for years to come… what is more topical and vital than due process for a young girl being sexually assaulted… he life was effected and she has had to live with this attack and had counseling for years, isn’t it time for an investigation… don’t you want transparency and good government all the time… only talking about a sexual assault on a minor and a life time appointment on the Supreme Court… Justice is needed… for my wife, daughters, mother, sisters, and all women… after 20 some interesting but someone pointless comments… move on to a real issue of importance gang… due process for Kavanaugh and Ford… now!

      1. sounds like you want more justice for ford than kavanagh…you are pretty transparent john…did you know she scrubbed all of her social media accounts. Did you know the digital yearbook that was up was scrubbed as well on monday? In that year book the women (gilrs) were dressed skimpy and they wrote stories of how much they partied and drinking until they blacked out in the year book! why did that disappear? Would that hurt fords chances. Of course with credible evidence we should look into it sexual assault is wrong. She has none. In the letter she claims it was 2 people in the room. Yet her visit to the therapist with her husband in the past she said 4 people..You just want him strung up for this? That is not due process.

        Maybe you can take a look at keith ellison the leftists presidential front runner. His ex actually had proof with photos. Ford cant even remember what house it was yet

      2. John Enk, how did we get on the subject of Ford and Kavanaugh? We are discussing a traffic accident that occured in Wausau. Try and keep up!

      3. He is here just to misdirect and attempt to get users to stop commenting on this website by derailing and frustrating every conversation.

      4. Are you deaf AND dumb, or just dumb? Seriously…. What in the hell is the headline to this story that everyone except you (in your infantile way) is commenting on? How about YOU move to a forum where your pet topic is being discussed instead of constantly being an ass here?

  13. Chris,

    I already provided information about releasing information for minors. Minors have more extensive protections.

    1. Dino, maybe that is why they continue to do stupid things. Or maybe the cloak of anonymity anonymity gifted to juveniles is more about protecting the parents so the rest of the community will not know the less than adequate job they have done in raising their children.

      1. ” maybe the cloak of anonymity anonymity is more about protecting the posters so the rest of the community will not know the less than adequate job they have done in raising their children.”

      2. Stan,

        If you take the time to take a look at the documents I offered up earlier, the DOJ clearly explains the reason for confidentiality protections for persons under 18. I encourage you to take a look.

    2. Can you cite the legal protections that minors supposedly have?

      The police and courts can choose to withhold names of juveniles, I do not think it’s a requirement. It wasn’t in the 90s and prior. They used to publish the name of every arrest.

      If it is an actual WI law, I’d appreciate knowing it. No sarcasm.

      This is what I could find for reference for juvenile rights in legal proceedings. No mention of privacy when they are charged with a crime. (Victims do have privacy rights in many cases, but I’m just talking about the driver here)

      https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/constitutional-rights-juvenile-proceedings-32224.html

      1. weren’t the names released when those wausau kids were involved in a stabbing a couple years ago? The one that showed up with a BB gun and the other kid stabbed him?

  14. Why do you need to know their names? What would you do then? Is it just for curiosity, or do plan on contacting the parents? Are you planning on gossiping with all your friends about this or speculating if you know or someone you knows knows the family? Maybe you would like to visit in the hospital. The fact remains if the accident is the fault of the driver, if insured the insurance would cover, if not the parents/guardian are sent a bill. As far as hospital cost, that also is billed to either insurance or the parent/guardian. As far as punishment, the police will investigate and if warranted charges will be brought.

    1. No gossip here…I would like to know ages and whether they had a license or not. Has nothing to do with knowing the names its the idea of transparency and if our local police and judicial system will try and sweep this under the rug or actually bring charges. Like the moron judge who gave signature bond and low cash bonds to those two people who just was in a drunken accident and the other who had 7 OWI/DWI whatever it was.

      What if the parents handed them the keys and they were 14 or something? Then the parents try and say the kids stole the car. WE just need more facts and i hope it will come out.

      1. “parents try and say the kids stole the car.”

        That actually happened here not too long ago.

        And the local media kept the offender’s name a secret even when they were waived into adult court because the family was very well connected locally.

        Because of that protection and shielding, that person bragged about being able to get away with anything and went on to seriously re-offend more times, even though they were coddled and hidden and protected by all local media outlets to not embarrass the family.

        If the current driver is waived into adult court and their family is not juiced in, we’ll get their names. If their parents are connected, they also will be kept anonymous.

      2. There is another article in the Wausau Pilot & Review about this accident. A 13 year old girl is in critical condition. A 15 year old boy and a 15 year old girl have been released from the hospital. The dog is OK. Two wearing seat belts, One was not. Police hope to release more information later.

  15. John, go discuss the Supreme Court appointmnet case ON AN ARTICLE THAT TALKS ABOUT IT.

    Enough of your derailing threads!!!!!!

  16. I posted source material on youth privacy earlier in the thread. I did not post links, because that ends up as spam often times. But, I posted everything you would need to find them. Including the DOJ document number.

  17. Again, John is seeking to disrupt a conversation. I encourage you all to ignore him. We were doing pretty well there.

  18. Call,

    This might get long, so it will be broken up because of limits, let me try though.

    First off, it is inherently different you being recorded and the government releasing the names of individuals under the age of 18. The government has rules under which they operate (which I posted about already), and journalists have to respect those rules. So Shereen cannot violate those rules, or she puts herself and the Pilot in jeopardy.

    So, again, it is public vs. private. Kwik Trip has a different set of rules than the Wausau Police Department. Though, I would bet Kwik Trip has some serious guidelines on how information is released to the public to prevent legal liability.

    I will answer your questions in the next post.

  19. Call…

    1. Do you KNOW everyone was insured in that crash?

    I have no idea if anyone was injured at the crash. I have no idea who crashed.

    2. Do you KNOW how much the average 911 call costs taxpayers? I think we can all safely assume that police, fire and ambulance responded. That’s free and of NO effin’ cost to me???? I think not.

    I do not know. I pay my taxes so that I can have fire, police, and ambulance protection. It is part of the social contract, and I like paying for it.

    3. Even if insured, you’re telling me that every penny of expense occurred (mostly from Aspirus I assume) will be “covered”. Riiiiiight.

    Again, I have no idea. While I worked in health care, and now sit on the board of a health care provider, I have no idea about the Aspirus business model. I would imagine if you do not work in the accounting department, at a rather senior level, you do not have any real knowledge of how costs are distributed over a client interaction at the provider.

    1. With all due respect… Your earlier post stated: “I think it is important to point out that there is nothing in this story that indicates a cost to the public”.
      Dino, that’s where you’re terribly wrong. Again, Police, EMS, Fire (at minimum) were called to the scene. That sure as hell involves “cost to the public”!
      You and I both pay our taxes so we can have fire, police and ambulance protection…..No s***, Sherlock. But you know what I do NOT pay for? A group of juveniles wrapping a car around a freaking tree at 0530 and not being “privileged” enough to know ANYTHING about the circumstances or who was involved. Yes, for the thirteenth time, I know what the stupid juvenile laws state (and honestly thank you for that info). I think it’s total BS and that’s my personal problem/opinion, but please do NOT tell me there was “no cost to the public”. That’s what has the hair across my backside.

      1. Call,

        Of course you pay for that. You want to pay for that, because the 15 year old numnuts (or however old they were) to you, you could easily be that to someone else.

        So we pay. Because we want to have the common good protected. Because each of us are part of the common good.

  20. “Again, John is seeking to disrupt a conversation. I encourage you all to ignore him. We were doing pretty well there.”

    John is attempting to upgrade the conversation about a minor who was assaulted and needs to have the matter investigated…

    Shereen has been removing may comments and that is sad, because the topic concerns the future and the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice…

    So you can hold your little discussion or look into a thread that includes a serious charge… the choice is yours…

  21. John,

    Again you consistently, and willfully seek to disrupt an ongoing conversation. This article is not about the Supreme Court nominee.

  22. John, notice how everyone’s character icons are all colorful & happy while yours is nasty brown? (Hint!)

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